Esolang talk:Policy

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[edit] What to do with non-esoteric languages

Processor/1 and FURscript both have comments on the talk page that people believe them not to be esoteric programming languages. The question is, what to do in such cases? It's technically possible for administrators to simply delete them (and they can be undeleted again if required), but I'm not going to delete non-spam/vandalism/copyvio pages without an agreement that that's a good idea. Some other possibilities are to remove the pages from the language lists and language categories, to move the pages elsewhere (into some sort of 'limbo' space, such as Esolang:Limbo/Processor/1), or to do nothing. What do people think? --ais523 17:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

P/1 is the architecture that inspired my instruction set for my brainfuck 'assembler' (that emulate a RISC machine similar to a P/1 on a brainfuck VM). I wanted to add an article for FRAK, and since P/1 had definitely a major impact over the design of FRAK (the braifuck asm), I though it was the right place to write an article. Since I was (until the last day) the only people on earth knowing the existence of this architecture, I was not going to add a wikipedia article (where genuine research is not allowed, contrary to this wiki).--Sigfb05 19:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe Processor/1 and FURscript belong in the quasi-esoteric category. --Zzo38 00:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd say that P/1 is, at least, related to esolangs.--Sigfb05 03:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting abandoned esolangs?

* (Deletion log); 22:39 . . Keymaker (Talk | contribs) (deleted "NMISC": Was requested to be deleted due its abandonment.)

Do people here think it's a good idea to delete pages here just because the project has been abandoned? Should this page remain deleted, or should it be restored? (Before the deletion, the article said "Due to other commitments, this project has been abandoned in its early stages. Editors, please feel free to delete this article.", and all its contributions were by the same person.) Personally, I think it might be better to undelete the article, revert its penultimate edit, and add a note that the project had been abandoned, just in case someone else wants to pick it up, or look at the article for historical reasons. What opinions do other people have about this? What should be our deletion policy for non-copyvio non-spam pages? --ais523 13:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, good question really. I didn't think much about it, I just deleted it as the author (I hope!) requested that. Perhaps a good rule might be that the projects that don't get done are left if their authors suggest no otherwise. (Or if the project is really exceptional -- but who is to define which is or isn't...) --Keymaker 14:15, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that a good measurement of what "abandoned" a project is is the time and audience a project has. How many people had posted comments or modified the article about the project? In wich time lapse? If the project have too much time of be published with no change and there is too few people interested in, I think there is not problem to delete it. This is precisely the case of my BrainSub article: after it was published it receive just 2 comments in the first 4 months and zero additional comments after 1 year. If the author request to delete it, who else cares about it? Aacini 11:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you ais523. Moreover, if abandoned projects are ever to be deleted, it should be done only after they have been marked as abandoned for a significant length of time, whether by the original author or by a random user noticing that it hasn't been worked on in ages. Moreover, I think that projects that have reached a certain stage of development should never be treated as abandoned. -- Smjg 17:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I think the policy should be that it is deleted only if all of these conditions are met:

• The author of the page requests it to be deleted
• It does not contain a lot of significant information
• Nobody objects to it being deleted (you can wait a few weeks or so to find out)

--Zzo38 19:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think anything should be deleted, unless it obviously has no value at all (no commands, no info, something like that). Even if the language only has basic features, someone else can be inspired by what the language has. poiuy_qwert 20:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)